So you want to buy an email list? Ok my last post on the subject of buying email lists kicked up a little bit of a fuss on a LinkedIn Group the “Pro Email Marketers”. The basis of the argument was that one individual thought I had gone too far, when I said List Sales was pointless, unethical and wrong. The argument goes that because it is legal in the UK to buy and sell and send email to a non-permission b2b list, that this made it ok. Moreover that because it was ok , there were hundreds of legitimate list sellers doing it, and many companies were buying these lists.
So this article will try and redress the balance – I do not expect it to manage to fully redress the balance and I have offered the individual the right to reply. This article explains how I can see a list sale being completed legitimately.
The individual that complained was very upset as he felt that the sale of non-permission b2b lists was acceptable practice in the UK, ideally he felt any campaigns from these lists should be targeted. So for the sake of clarity and for the balance that he asked for on the blog I will make it clear:
It is perfectly legal to purchase a non-permission list of email address of UK Business and mail them with B2B offers. The only proviso is that it contains the name, address and registered company details of the sender and an opt-out link. As long as you do that it is plain sailing as far as the law is concerned.
There are, I am well aware, many back room deals being done by very big companies in regards to the purchase of email lists with little or no permission. You of course will not find them on Twitter tweeting about list purchase, and they will flatly deny knowledge of any such activity if you ask them. There is a reason why that is the case, that is because in the eyes of most people in the industry the selling of lists is a shady practice at best.
Luckily the collective mass makes the decision as to what happens with email, so reputations are tarnished and ISP’s and ESP’s decline to deliver email they define as spam. I have yet to see an ESP or ISP that has a clause in its terms and conditions in regards to allowing the sending of mail to non-permission lists if its UK and b2b. I know Spamhaus, Spamcop, MAAWG, Signal Spam and others make no such distinction. The vast majority of users make no such distinction.
So that said how can you buy an email list? Well the problem as I see it is permission. You need a clear audit trail of permission to be firmly on ‘best practice’ ground. The idea of transferring permission or selling it is an anethema to most privacy advocates. But come Andrew, there is money involved. There has to be a way.
OK so you find a company that claims they can sell you a list to re-use, ad infinitum. They guarantee they have permission to email this list, and not only that they have several thousand senior decision makers who said it was ok to share those details with third parties.
You want to buy an email list, and they tell you its responsive. So get them to prove it and buy it. You can get a list following these methods very quickly, a list of prospect that has directly given you permission, is guaranteed to be responsive and interested in what you have to say. It really is relatively simple, now I wonder how many List Sellers will offer it as a service. If their lists are so targetted and responsive then they should be happy to offer this. Obviously it will be at a premium, but at least your paying a price that is tangible for each lead, as opposed to wasting money on an unresponsive list with high bounce rates.
So before we go further, this is my idea of how it could be done. It would, I think pacify most of the people that sit on my side of the fence in regards to permission (as long as that original list was permission based).
Step 1
Get the List Owner to send an email saying there is this great newsletter (thats you) that they really will not want to miss, and explain all the benefits. All they need to do is click to confirm they want to join the list. This email can contain sales offers etc. Just make sure the list owner sends this first message
Step 2
You send them their welcome email asking them to confirm their subscription.
Step 3
Anyone who has confirmed is added to your list.
You now have your own list that you ‘bought’ if you wish to call it that.
What list sellers will offer
When it comes to selling lists companies would like to make it appear that they are extremely ethical and above board. One thing they will offer is an opt-out campaign, sometimes they like to call it a ‘permission pass’. They can be clever with words like that. So a permission pass could be dressed up to sound similar as the above but it is not. In fact it does not involve permission at all.
Permission pass is when the list seller will send an email to their list saying we are passing on your details to XYZ, if you want click here to opt out.
They are happy to do this because they know most people will not opt out. That isnt because it is a responsive list necessarily though, more likely people will not click the link as they do not trust it, the email itself will end up in many junk folders and of the email that did get to the inbox much of it would not be opened.


Thanks for the feedback John & Mike. I am glad to see I did not get a whole heap of objections, as you quite rightly said Mike, its not List Purchase. I do not even like the term list rental but that is a whole other discussion.
No doubt list sales are unacceptable, love your link Mike http://caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com/
Of course I was never going to write a blog piece on how list purchase could be done right, I am allot of things but not a magician (not even any magic beans). As list purchase is an absolute no-no that would be an impossible task.
Rather I thought whilst posts like:
http://www.theemailguide.com/email-marketing/every-time-you-buy-an-email-list-a-puppy-dies/
http://blog.blueskyfactory.com/best-practice/when-is-it-okay-to-buy-an-email-list/
http://redpillemail.com/blog/2010/passing-the-true-beauty-email-test.html
Are great in their own right, the first two witty, enabling the message to be spread, and the True Beauty Email Test series from John being fantastic they did not address the needs of some of this blogs visitors and my own (I link back to various articles including those above on a variety of forums, networks and websites when warning business of the dangers of list purchase).
I will now be sure to add http://caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com/ – Thanks Mike =)
So back to the reason for asking the question yet again. They did not address a specific need. That is when the decision maker has decided he has a great offer for an Email List Purchase and will not listen to reason and is only seeing Pounds and Pennies. Or faced with a deaf-to-reason list seller. Convinced its acceptable, its opt-in, its responsive, etc.
How does the guy responsible for the management of the list, deliverability and allot of other things convince the decision maker, the one who really has ‘ownership’ of email marketing in often that is the Marketing Dept & the CEO. In an impossible position because they care little about reputation, deliverability and list health, that isn’t their job or problem. That individual needs an argument that someone who is sales driven will understand, there and then, in a way that it can be applied to that very specific situation.
I know from emails I have received that this has proven to be the case for at least one person, they turned the question on the list seller who flatly refused. This caused the CEO to question the whole business of responses etc. Result the purchase of the list was shelved and they have asked me to assist in building their list without magic beans.
Now for this post I have several page 1 rankings on Google for list purchase related search terms.
I will now amended the article to include a link to my original blog post which I believe leaves no ambiguity as to where I stand on the issue. I would hope it makes other people realise the ignorance of list purchase.
Keep in mind that what you just listed was list rental, not list purchase. List rental is when someone sends a message to their list on behalf of a third-party without providing the list itself to the third party. In your example the desired result is subscription to the third-party’s list, but it is still a list rental.
List purchase is when the third-party receives the list and can use it for their own purposes.
List rental will have its own best practices but is different enough from list purchase to warrant its own discussion. As for the title of the post see: http://caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com/
Asking the same question over and over and over doesn’t change the answer, nor will parsing words, playing semantics, and wrestling nuances.
If you are not prepared or willing to accept the answer and evidence behind it, then why keep asking the question?
There’s a reason that you’ll never see Ron Jeremy at a film awards banquet with Jeremy Irons….
At the end of the day, who are you going to believe? The guy selling you magic beans, or the guy telling you there is no such thing as magic beans?
Don’t buy lists!
Hi John
I think you are aware on my stance of list purchase, and I make no bones about the fact that it is not acceptable in any shape or form.
What I proposed isn’t list purchase really, it is of course lead generation.
The above solution came by way of a client who wanted to email a second newsletter to their subscribers. Same company, different newsletter. So a call to action to the subscriber preference centre is what I recomended.
I have played with the solution to see how it could work in 3rd party situations.
I haven’t got any magic beans :-D Promise!
best
Andrew